In this episode, I explore the evolution of the modern workplace with Yann Toutant, the Netherlands CEO of the €6bn digital services company Econocom. We talk:

– Why he likes his people out of the office, but not working from home
– How his shareholders said they’d fire him if he *didn’t* go sailing during year-end
– How we forget that we manage for outcomes all the time
– The key ingredients of a great place to work
– How to know when you’ve lost control and how to get it back


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